Even in God’s silence He’s still working and to see how obedient Joseph was to the Lord. The Lord said go here and he went to protect his Son and wife. help me Lord to be obedient like Joseph.
10 Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity. – Job 34:10
I love how in Matthew 2, God told Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt to escape Herod. And they resided there until Herod’s death. It’s fascinating to me that God led them to Egypt to escape death when yearssssss before Egypt was the place of bondage for the Israelites and the place from which God had to rescue them. As I was processing this, I felt like the Lord said “redemption and sometimes I take you back to a place so you can help redeem it…” very interesting and very timely for my life!
Hey! Irony, let me introduce you to Job’s friends.
They have to know, even if it’s buried deep down, their own sin. Yet they berate Job relentlessly. If, by their math, sin=calamity, why aren’t they in the ashes with Job?
Teach me what I do not see; if I have done an equity, I will do it no more. This beautiful verse in Job really stuck out to me. Many of us wonder why you cannot feel God’s presence. When we do not take time to be taught to see what we do not see and hear and recognize the voice of God, we will not be able to hear him or see the beautiful signs and blessings he is giving to us daily
Something so powerful about God coming to Joseph in his dreams and telling him where to go. I long to have that same kind of guidance from the the Lord.
Being close to God’s presence meant that the wise men fell down and worshipped, turned away from their leader, and acted on the path God instructed them. We are free from oppression of government and all man made issues when we follow the Lord.
After studying Job for a year, in a Sunday School class, some great takeaways to remember while reading:: Job’s friend were the smartest, well educated men. Job and his friends lacked special revaluation, which we have through Jesus.
I always had trouble relating to Job when I was young. But now in my 40s I look back and see how his trials are possible. I pray to be as steadfast as Job in my life. Im easily swayed by those around me so by surrounding myself with Him!
The Bible Project is hoping to create short animations for each book of the Bible…. they’re just starting out, but I find their whole library to be fantastic. Just wanted to share with hopes it resonates with others.
I love that in Matthew 1-2 it shows such a picture of unquestioning obedience to God. 4 times God instructs Joseph and he simply does as God says. There is no record of a fight or disagreement. He just obeys. I want to be obedient like Joseph!
I loved reading the “Christmas story” outside of Christmas. It helped me to humanize the story of Jesus’ birth. We usually read this story during one of the happiest times of the year (for some) but reading it now, I can see how terrifying this time was. Those poor mothers who lost their sons! How scared must Mary had been, not to mention exhausted. Thank you, Jesus for all those who lost loved ones and sacrificed safety and comfort to usher you into this world.
So true Sarah — reading it outside of Christmas makes me look at it in a completely different way! As a mother, it must have been horrifying. I’m so thankful for the sacrifice on Mary & Joseph’s part, uprooting so so many times in order to save Jesus’ life! I cannot fathom.
I love the humanity that is expressed in Job’s story. The conversations, questions, emotions…are all too real. Makes me wonder what could be deduced from conversations between my friends and I when troubles come our way. What kind of people do we sound like? Job or his friends?
I love how God speaks to his people. We never need to not trust that God can speak directly to us in our time of need or even in plenty as we believe and pray for others.
Something that stood out to me in job was this verse 34:14-15 “if it were his intention and he withdrew his spirit and breath , all humanity would perish together and mankind would return to the dust”. I think this verse hit me so hard because it just reminds me of how powerful our God is and that he IS our creator and created us and continue to sustains our life! He is our sustainer!
8 Your wickedness only affects humans like yourself,
and your righteousness only other people.
So interesting to think about. Our sins don’t affect God. They affect ourselves and the people around us. We have an influence to either be sinful or righteous. Those around us see God through our behavior and our actions. We have to choose to live our lives in a holy and righteous way as to glorify God.
I thought it was interesting that Jesus came from David who was a descendant of Leah. And the babies killed in Bethlehem according to this passage are daughters of Rachel
I wonder what Mary thought as Joseph uprooted them multiple times in such a short amount of time. Those were long distances to travel back then. Amazing to see The Lord guiding the head of the household so clearly to us, but perhaps it wasn’t as clear to her. The prophecy being fulfilled through sinful man-amazing.
Ugh sitting here with my 5 month old son and my heart is breaking for those mothers who lost their babies by Herod. I have a hard time reading the stories where infants are involved right now! God is good and always has a plan. What better person to take care of those sweet babies than God himself.. Still tugs on my heart strings
I think that the main message we are to take from Job is an understanding of the law vs. grace. Job’s friends emphasized justice and only understood that, ” when you’re good, God gives you good things” and “when you’re bad, God gives you bad things.” It’s the prosperity gospel. But God’s justice doesn’t always look like our justice. And his grace, to us may not always seem justified. And trials and struggles are how he receives glory (2 Corinthians 12:9), not just a punishment for the ungodly. To me – Jobs friends represent the old gospel of he law whereas Job represents what was to come in the new Gospel of grace – a new standard of measurement – Jesus Christ, not our behavior.
Matthew keeps pointing to OT prophecy and saying, “See? He fulfills this prophecy too! See?” Matthew was written primarily to a Jewish audience. It was important to them to see how Messiah fulfilled the OT prophecy.
Today what really impressed me was the fulfillment of so many prophecies in Matthew 2. Nothing to add to it. Just appreciating Jesus’ birth and childhood was fulfilling this prophecy from ages before. But happening in “real time” for Mary and Joseph. Also, what an obedient man Joseph was! Following God’s direction through his dreams to fulfill the prophecies of old. Amazing.
This is what I am getting from Job: Before JESUS our sin affected mostly just oursleves and those around us. God’s presence on earth was only in the temple. Our sin still separated us from Him but when Jesus came it changed. Each of our sins now pierces a nail into his hands and feet and we are putting him on the cross. Jesus felt every last bit of our sin and our rejection yet He still suffered through it all FOR US!!! That is mind blowingly awesome!!!
I feel SO stupid but I never knew this bit of info! Multiple sources say that the gifts the Magi brought in Matthew 2 represent 3 different things: gold = kingship; frankincense = priesthood; and myrrh = death & embalming .. So if that’s the case that’s crazy because it’s foreshadowing his death and they didn’t even know!
Yes, but also how amazing is it that those were they gifts. Foreshadowing, which shows us how much God cares about details and how He sees the big picture and we have to wait to see it revealed. Also, my Matthew Henry Commentary said that they were gifts of money and things that were worth money. It also says, “Providence sent this as a timely relief to Joseph and Mary in their present poor condition.” God’s always looking out for us.
I love that Matthew 2 shows that God can take something meant for evil and make it good. The Wise Men were originally commanded to go find Jesus so that Harod could kill Him. The sole purpose for their visit had evil intentions. But God had a different plan – one to not only save His Son, but work in the lives of the Wise Men. He took something meant for evil and made it good. I love this.
I am really enjoying Job, but I have to admit this passage today is getting the better of me. I don’t think everything in the Bible has to directly apply to me (it does, but I view it more as a story of God’s love and commitment to us vs specific object lessons), but I’m struggling with figuring out what I’m supposed to take away from this.
I’m finding Job’s friends’ lack of compassion a bit shocking. The man’s children died horrifically, his property and business ripped away from him, and a terrible skin disease as well, and these guys stand there condemning him. Horrible.
Hi Lauren. I think that is exactly what we need to take away from it. Just because our Christian friends give us advice, doesn’t mean it’s always sound advice. Also, they meant well, because they wanted to help him with his problem. What they failed to see is that sometimes we need to just stand in prayer with someone and comfort them rather than “have the answers”. I have a chronic condition and my friends have been NOTHING like Job. Some other people have done exactly what these friends did. THANKFULLY I had read Job many years ago and knew not to take personally, and to have wisdom and discernment as it relates to advice. I have also learned to be careful what I say. Hope this helps.
Hi Lauren. I think that is exactly what we need to take away from it. Just because our Christian friends give us advice, doesn’t mean it’s always sound advice. Also, they meant well, because they wanted to help him with his problem. What they failed to see is that sometimes we need to just stand in prayer with someone and comfort them rather than “have the answers”. I have a chronic condition and my friends have been NOTHING like Job. Some other people have done exactly what these friends did. THANKFULLY I had read Job many years ago and knew not to take personally, and to have wisdom and discernment as it relates to advice. I have also learned to be careful what I say. Hope this helps.
I think it’s that God is bigger than our sin and righteousness… Obeying is for us not Him… He delights with our worship but stays just as powerful and perfect whether we sin or obey…
Yes, I agree. Our sins and acts of good do not touch him. He does not need us. But he obviously cares about our actions. The only reason he cares is because he loves us. He loves us so much that he became human– full God but fully human– and took our sins upon himself. So that our sins hurt him, beat him down, and killed him. But then he rose from the dead and defeated death and sin for us. Job 35 reminds us that he did not have any reason to do that except for his unending love for us. Also interestingly, Jesus says “I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me” Matthew 25:40. Obviously God does not need us, but He has selflessly placed himself in the midst of our lives to love us.
I think all we do does touch God, whether good or bad. Why else was he so grieved that he created us that he caused the flood in Noah’s time? He created us to love and worship Him! Anything else must be disappointing. Yes, a parent still loves their naughty child, but it still breaks their heart. I think the same is true, even more so, with God.
In the same sense that we expect our spouses to be faithful and love us and spend time with us and not cheat on us “with evil”, He expects that of His church (He IS our bridegroom).
I think when Sarah says “touch” she is more or less meaning affected. Our God cannot be affected by our actions. When God shows mercy, it isn’t because man persuaded him to do so, and if He inflicts judgment, it isn’t because man injured Him… He is impartial. However, it does affect man. I do believe God becomes disappointed when we reject Him, but not “affected”, if that makes sense! This is what I read from The Bible Knowledge Commentary and really made sense to me.
Although I liked what Elihu had to say the other day, today’s monologue is a bit more unsettling. He now turns to assuming that Job must be ignoring some kind of sin in order to be in his current position.
We always want to give our friends advice, don’t we? We hate to see people in distress — but so does Jesus.
Anyhow, I was intrigued by Elihu’s claim that sin & righteousness are earth-bound; that our choices only affect humanity and not God. Then we jump to watching Herod’s sin definitely affecting the Jewish race.
This is really interesting insight. I saw it as you might as well go ahead and sin because obviously look at your situation. Does it matter…I think a lot about this in our world. People think sin doesn’t matter. Or it’s a little sin, how can that affect anyone else. Yet it does.
Some of his words are truth, but he only accused Job in his heart. I imagine most of us in his place may have done something similar…I find myself judging Job’s friend but putting myself in his place I find we can all easily accuse without asking for Gods wisdom.
Even in God’s silence He’s still working and to see how obedient Joseph was to the Lord. The Lord said go here and he went to protect his Son and wife. help me Lord to be obedient like Joseph.
10 Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity. – Job 34:10
It is incredible to see the faith of the magi to travel so far and long to meet the King!
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I love how in Matthew 2, God told Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt to escape Herod. And they resided there until Herod’s death. It’s fascinating to me that God led them to Egypt to escape death when yearssssss before Egypt was the place of bondage for the Israelites and the place from which God had to rescue them. As I was processing this, I felt like the Lord said “redemption and sometimes I take you back to a place so you can help redeem it…” very interesting and very timely for my life!
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Reading the Bible everyday gets better and better. Thankful for the Magi who saw how important Jesus was for the world.
Hey! Irony, let me introduce you to Job’s friends.
They have to know, even if it’s buried deep down, their own sin. Yet they berate Job relentlessly. If, by their math, sin=calamity, why aren’t they in the ashes with Job?
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iniquity not equity
Teach me what I do not see; if I have done an equity, I will do it no more. This beautiful verse in Job really stuck out to me. Many of us wonder why you cannot feel God’s presence. When we do not take time to be taught to see what we do not see and hear and recognize the voice of God, we will not be able to hear him or see the beautiful signs and blessings he is giving to us daily
So many good things to think about in Job. Was really struck this morning by His goodness and by his protection even when he’s silent.
Night-dark
Look up.
Like the wisemen
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So powerful!
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God is so powerful and just! “It is unthinkable that God would do wrong, that the almighty would pervert justice” Job 34:12
Something so powerful about God coming to Joseph in his dreams and telling him where to go. I long to have that same kind of guidance from the the Lord.
Amen!
Being close to God’s presence meant that the wise men fell down and worshipped, turned away from their leader, and acted on the path God instructed them. We are free from oppression of government and all man made issues when we follow the Lord.
11And going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him.
amen -ellie
Praise God that He has fulfilled all that was spoken by Him through the prophets in our Lord Jesus Christ. May we marvel at His ways.
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After studying Job for a year, in a Sunday School class, some great takeaways to remember while reading:: Job’s friend were the smartest, well educated men. Job and his friends lacked special revaluation, which we have through Jesus.
I always had trouble relating to Job when I was young. But now in my 40s I look back and see how his trials are possible. I pray to be as steadfast as Job in my life. Im easily swayed by those around me so by surrounding myself with Him!
As a visual person, I’m having a little trouble with Job, but I just found this video very helpful – hope others may as well!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GswSg2ohqmA&feature=youtu.be
The Bible Project is hoping to create short animations for each book of the Bible…. they’re just starting out, but I find their whole library to be fantastic. Just wanted to share with hopes it resonates with others.
Thank you, Laurel. These videos look awesome! I just saw the one you mentioned above, and it helped me, too.
Thank you for sharing Laurel! I am having trouble with Job.
Super helpful! Thanks!
Thank you So
Much for the video. It was so helpful. I was feeling so lost in the poetry of the words I couldn’t see the message.
I love that in Matthew 1-2 it shows such a picture of unquestioning obedience to God. 4 times God instructs Joseph and he simply does as God says. There is no record of a fight or disagreement. He just obeys. I want to be obedient like Joseph!
I stand amazed in the presence of Jesus the Nazerene
Thanks for sharing Stefanie! Lord please don’t leave me alone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FZ5uM_YfB4
Ladies I found this five minute video about Job!! Must watch!!
WOW! powerful! this is great- and further helps comprehend Job- challenging book.
Thank you for sharing this Stefanie! Powerful!
Thank you! I’ve struggled so much reading Job, and this really helps!
Stefanie, this is incredible!! Thanks so much for sharing!!
Thank you for sharing Stefanie! That video was perfect:
Thank you for sharing this Stefanie!! May the LORD never leave us alone.
I love reading the parallels of Moses and Jesus – both survived infanticide.
I loved reading the “Christmas story” outside of Christmas. It helped me to humanize the story of Jesus’ birth. We usually read this story during one of the happiest times of the year (for some) but reading it now, I can see how terrifying this time was. Those poor mothers who lost their sons! How scared must Mary had been, not to mention exhausted. Thank you, Jesus for all those who lost loved ones and sacrificed safety and comfort to usher you into this world.
So true Sarah — reading it outside of Christmas makes me look at it in a completely different way! As a mother, it must have been horrifying. I’m so thankful for the sacrifice on Mary & Joseph’s part, uprooting so so many times in order to save Jesus’ life! I cannot fathom.
I love the humanity that is expressed in Job’s story. The conversations, questions, emotions…are all too real. Makes me wonder what could be deduced from conversations between my friends and I when troubles come our way. What kind of people do we sound like? Job or his friends?
I love how God speaks to his people. We never need to not trust that God can speak directly to us in our time of need or even in plenty as we believe and pray for others.
I’m glad I could help ! As a new mommy to my little 9 month old, the passage of the babies being killed was so hard for me too. I can’t imagine!
Something that stood out to me in job was this verse 34:14-15 “if it were his intention and he withdrew his spirit and breath , all humanity would perish together and mankind would return to the dust”. I think this verse hit me so hard because it just reminds me of how powerful our God is and that he IS our creator and created us and continue to sustains our life! He is our sustainer!
8 Your wickedness only affects humans like yourself,
and your righteousness only other people.
So interesting to think about. Our sins don’t affect God. They affect ourselves and the people around us. We have an influence to either be sinful or righteous. Those around us see God through our behavior and our actions. We have to choose to live our lives in a holy and righteous way as to glorify God.
Just wondering over here in Texas how many people in our world utter empty talk; and without knowledge multiply our words. Job 35:16. What about me?
I thought it was interesting that Jesus came from David who was a descendant of Leah. And the babies killed in Bethlehem according to this passage are daughters of Rachel
Very interesting
I wonder what Mary thought as Joseph uprooted them multiple times in such a short amount of time. Those were long distances to travel back then. Amazing to see The Lord guiding the head of the household so clearly to us, but perhaps it wasn’t as clear to her. The prophecy being fulfilled through sinful man-amazing.
Ugh sitting here with my 5 month old son and my heart is breaking for those mothers who lost their babies by Herod. I have a hard time reading the stories where infants are involved right now! God is good and always has a plan. What better person to take care of those sweet babies than God himself.. Still tugs on my heart strings
I hear you…it’s not something to gloss over. Lives and families were changed because of that. Sad..
I think that the main message we are to take from Job is an understanding of the law vs. grace. Job’s friends emphasized justice and only understood that, ” when you’re good, God gives you good things” and “when you’re bad, God gives you bad things.” It’s the prosperity gospel. But God’s justice doesn’t always look like our justice. And his grace, to us may not always seem justified. And trials and struggles are how he receives glory (2 Corinthians 12:9), not just a punishment for the ungodly. To me – Jobs friends represent the old gospel of he law whereas Job represents what was to come in the new Gospel of grace – a new standard of measurement – Jesus Christ, not our behavior.
Wow I love this! You explained it so clearly
Wow, thank you! I’ve never heard it explained like that before! Thank you for sharing!
Yes, thank you for your thoughts. It helped me understand the passage cause I was so confused. It’s clarifies a lot.
LOVE this. Thank you!
Loved your commentary Shannon. Very well put and applicable! Bless you for your clarity!,
Love this summary Shannon! Thanks for sharing!
Matthew keeps pointing to OT prophecy and saying, “See? He fulfills this prophecy too! See?” Matthew was written primarily to a Jewish audience. It was important to them to see how Messiah fulfilled the OT prophecy.
Today what really impressed me was the fulfillment of so many prophecies in Matthew 2. Nothing to add to it. Just appreciating Jesus’ birth and childhood was fulfilling this prophecy from ages before. But happening in “real time” for Mary and Joseph. Also, what an obedient man Joseph was! Following God’s direction through his dreams to fulfill the prophecies of old. Amazing.
This is what I am getting from Job: Before JESUS our sin affected mostly just oursleves and those around us. God’s presence on earth was only in the temple. Our sin still separated us from Him but when Jesus came it changed. Each of our sins now pierces a nail into his hands and feet and we are putting him on the cross. Jesus felt every last bit of our sin and our rejection yet He still suffered through it all FOR US!!! That is mind blowingly awesome!!!
I feel SO stupid but I never knew this bit of info! Multiple sources say that the gifts the Magi brought in Matthew 2 represent 3 different things: gold = kingship; frankincense = priesthood; and myrrh = death & embalming .. So if that’s the case that’s crazy because it’s foreshadowing his death and they didn’t even know!
Yes, but also how amazing is it that those were they gifts. Foreshadowing, which shows us how much God cares about details and how He sees the big picture and we have to wait to see it revealed. Also, my Matthew Henry Commentary said that they were gifts of money and things that were worth money. It also says, “Providence sent this as a timely relief to Joseph and Mary in their present poor condition.” God’s always looking out for us.
That is SUCH an awesome detail!!
Thanks for sharing.
wow that’s so cool!
Don’t feel stupid Jaida, I didn’t know that either. That’s really cool info. Thanks for sharing!
Elihu is basically saying, “Job how can you continue to claim innocence?! Are you sure? Can’t you see what people are saying?!”
Job’s friends don’t have Jesus and his model of love and compassion. But WE do. Thank you God.
I love that Matthew 2 shows that God can take something meant for evil and make it good. The Wise Men were originally commanded to go find Jesus so that Harod could kill Him. The sole purpose for their visit had evil intentions. But God had a different plan – one to not only save His Son, but work in the lives of the Wise Men. He took something meant for evil and made it good. I love this.
We tend to want to “fix” the problem with our suggestions. Sometimes, we need to just be there and not say anything.
Well said Wanda. Sometimes we are just there to be support :)
I think we can all learn from Job’s friends. They meant well, but we’re way off track.
I am really enjoying Job, but I have to admit this passage today is getting the better of me. I don’t think everything in the Bible has to directly apply to me (it does, but I view it more as a story of God’s love and commitment to us vs specific object lessons), but I’m struggling with figuring out what I’m supposed to take away from this.
I’m finding Job’s friends’ lack of compassion a bit shocking. The man’s children died horrifically, his property and business ripped away from him, and a terrible skin disease as well, and these guys stand there condemning him. Horrible.
Hi Lauren. I think that is exactly what we need to take away from it. Just because our Christian friends give us advice, doesn’t mean it’s always sound advice. Also, they meant well, because they wanted to help him with his problem. What they failed to see is that sometimes we need to just stand in prayer with someone and comfort them rather than “have the answers”. I have a chronic condition and my friends have been NOTHING like Job. Some other people have done exactly what these friends did. THANKFULLY I had read Job many years ago and knew not to take personally, and to have wisdom and discernment as it relates to advice. I have also learned to be careful what I say. Hope this helps.
Hi Lauren. I think that is exactly what we need to take away from it. Just because our Christian friends give us advice, doesn’t mean it’s always sound advice. Also, they meant well, because they wanted to help him with his problem. What they failed to see is that sometimes we need to just stand in prayer with someone and comfort them rather than “have the answers”. I have a chronic condition and my friends have been NOTHING like Job. Some other people have done exactly what these friends did. THANKFULLY I had read Job many years ago and knew not to take personally, and to have wisdom and discernment as it relates to advice. I have also learned to be careful what I say. Hope this helps.
Great point Celina on ~learning~ not to take things personally, and take everything to heart! I am almost 41 , and still learning this…
I think it’s that God is bigger than our sin and righteousness… Obeying is for us not Him… He delights with our worship but stays just as powerful and perfect whether we sin or obey…
Yes, I agree. Our sins and acts of good do not touch him. He does not need us. But he obviously cares about our actions. The only reason he cares is because he loves us. He loves us so much that he became human– full God but fully human– and took our sins upon himself. So that our sins hurt him, beat him down, and killed him. But then he rose from the dead and defeated death and sin for us. Job 35 reminds us that he did not have any reason to do that except for his unending love for us. Also interestingly, Jesus says “I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me” Matthew 25:40. Obviously God does not need us, but He has selflessly placed himself in the midst of our lives to love us.
Nicely said!
I think all we do does touch God, whether good or bad. Why else was he so grieved that he created us that he caused the flood in Noah’s time? He created us to love and worship Him! Anything else must be disappointing. Yes, a parent still loves their naughty child, but it still breaks their heart. I think the same is true, even more so, with God.
In the same sense that we expect our spouses to be faithful and love us and spend time with us and not cheat on us “with evil”, He expects that of His church (He IS our bridegroom).
I think when Sarah says “touch” she is more or less meaning affected. Our God cannot be affected by our actions. When God shows mercy, it isn’t because man persuaded him to do so, and if He inflicts judgment, it isn’t because man injured Him… He is impartial. However, it does affect man. I do believe God becomes disappointed when we reject Him, but not “affected”, if that makes sense! This is what I read from The Bible Knowledge Commentary and really made sense to me.
Although I liked what Elihu had to say the other day, today’s monologue is a bit more unsettling. He now turns to assuming that Job must be ignoring some kind of sin in order to be in his current position.
We always want to give our friends advice, don’t we? We hate to see people in distress — but so does Jesus.
Anyhow, I was intrigued by Elihu’s claim that sin & righteousness are earth-bound; that our choices only affect humanity and not God. Then we jump to watching Herod’s sin definitely affecting the Jewish race.
Thoughts on this?
This is really interesting insight. I saw it as you might as well go ahead and sin because obviously look at your situation. Does it matter…I think a lot about this in our world. People think sin doesn’t matter. Or it’s a little sin, how can that affect anyone else. Yet it does.
Some of his words are truth, but he only accused Job in his heart. I imagine most of us in his place may have done something similar…I find myself judging Job’s friend but putting myself in his place I find we can all easily accuse without asking for Gods wisdom.
Job’s friends talk too much!
Amen!
That they do!
Hahaha. They certainly do talk too much!
Agreed! Every time I read job it reminds me what not to do when a friend is grieving!